1月22日晚,中国日报举办的首期“新时代大讲堂”开讲了!
演讲现场,中国日报外籍记者安德鲁·穆迪(Andrew Moody)结合自己丰富的采访经历,生动地讲述了外国专家学者眼中的中国“新时代”,并分享了发展中国家记者对中国和“新时代”的看法。
安德鲁·穆迪(Andrew Moody)是中国日报社最资深的外籍记者之一,报道方向以中国经济主题为主,涉及“一带一路”倡议、“中国制造2025”、“十三五计划”、供给侧结构性改革、中美贸易关系等近年来大热话题,九年来为中国日报社的欧洲版和非洲版撰写了150余篇封面报道;同时他也负责部分专访栏目,广泛采访学者、智库专家和社会知名人士。在工作中,安德鲁·穆迪有机会亲眼见证中国的发展,记录西方世界对中国所经历的巨变的看法。
安德鲁说,他在人民大会堂聆听了习近平总书记作的十九大报告,深受触动。
I have been present at a number of what have been perceived political speeches before and in the hall itself there was certainly a sense of being a witness to something historic.
我曾经参加过很多次政治演讲,而身处大会堂,我感觉见证了历史。
安德鲁参与十九大报道
他说, 对于十九大报告,他所接触到的各界人士都有一个共识:中国进入新时代可能是世界历史上的一个重大转折点。
The immediate reaction to Xi's report was that China's New Era was a new and confident China striding forward into a world that it itself would play a large part in shaping.
大家对于报告的直观感受是,中国的“新时代”意味着一个全新的、充满信心的中国正迈入一个自己在塑造过程中会扮演重要角色的世界。
对于十九大报告和“新时代”,海内外到底怎么看呢?安德鲁介绍了他采访过的专家学者的看法。
在十九大报告发表后,安德鲁很快采访了英国学者、《当中国统治世界》(When China Rules the World)一书作者马丁·雅克(Martin Jacques)。
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马丁的《当中国统治世界》曾被前香港总督彭定康形容为“愚蠢”,但在听了习主席的报告后,安德鲁觉得马丁观点的正确性似乎得到了验证。
This was not necessarily because China was about to take over the world any time soon but because Xi's Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era was a solid defense of China's system.
这倒不是因为中国真的即将接管世界,而是因为习近平新时代中国特色社会主义思想坚实地捍卫了中国体制。
牛津大学全球史教授、畅销书《丝绸之路:一部全新的世界史》的作者彼得·弗兰克潘(Peter Frankopan)认为,习近平展现了一幅概念统一的全球愿景(a unified global vision)。
What Xi has been very careful to do over the last few years is set out a grand vision and now it is all about getting behind that vision and putting the shoulder to the grindstone to make sure it is deliverable.
在过去几年中,习近平谨慎仔细地设立了一个宏伟愿景,现在正是为实现这个愿景而坚持不懈地努力奋斗的时候。
➤ “美丽中国”
对于习近平提出的“美丽中国”("a beautiful China"),安德鲁说,他采访过的很多人很赞同这一理念。
清华大学金融教授朱宁认为:
Zhu Ning believed moving away from growth targets was setting out "a new vision for development" and he believed as a result that any goals set would be "more sustainable" in the longer term.
不再执着于单纯的增长目标是设立了“新的发展愿景”。他相信,以此为基础制定的目标,长远看来都将是“更可持续”的。
➤ “新时代”与减贫密切相关
安德鲁说,习近平减贫路径的一个重要方面,就是带领人们摆脱“贫困心理”。
2013年11月3日,习近平在十八洞村同村干部和村民座谈。
Many such as Yazini April, a research specialist at the Human Science Research Council, based in Pretoria, believes Xi’s ideas on poverty reduction are a defining aspect of the new era.
包括来自比勒陀利亚的人类科学研究理事会专家Yazini April在内的很多人都认为,习近平的减贫思想是“新时代”的一个决定性因素。
➤ 中国“新时代”与发展中国家
此外,安德鲁还与多位来自发展中国家,尤其是非洲国家的记者交流,了解他们对中国的看法。
埃塞俄比亚记者Getachew Yalew说:
Ethiopia had managed to deliver some 23 million out of poverty in two decades by following China's approach.
通过学习中国,埃塞俄比亚在20年里已经成功使约2300万人摆脱贫困。
埃塞尔比亚牧民
尼日利亚报纸Leadership首席记者Bukola Jasmine Ogunsina说:
It was important that China wasn't forcing its own particular model of development on Africa and in Nigeria's case. It was better it found its own model of development and did not just copy either Asian or western models.
中国不把自己的发展模式强加给非洲,这很重要。对尼日利亚来说,应该找到一条适合自身发展的路径而不是盲目照搬亚洲或西方模式。
➤ 中国“新时代”的意义
安德鲁说,习近平作十九大报告和“新时代”的提出已经过去三个多月了,但这些想法仍在引起广泛共鸣。
10月18日,习近平在中国共产党第十九次全国代表大会上作报告。摄影丨新华社 鞠鹏
安德鲁本月早些时候采访了英国前首相布莱尔,在采访中,布莱尔对比了中国领导人的讲话和西方政治家的演讲。
他说中国领导人讲话不仅措辞适当,更是给出了一个真实方向,让大家了解政策往哪里去。
He said Xi's report was interesting from a number of important angles but it indicated more than anything that China now had the ambition to go on to the next stage where it would have big significance in the world.
他说习近平的报告从各个角度来看都非常有价值,同时也意味着中国现在有进入下一阶段的雄心壮志,这对于整个世界都意义重大。
安德鲁说,现在还不可能知道“新时代”在未来到底会带来什么全面影响。
但是,可以肯定的是:
New era is a concept that is intended from the outset to be significant.
“新时代”是一个从开始就意义非凡的概念。
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此外,安德鲁还接受了中国日报记者的专访,分享了他的个人体会和思考。来先睹为快!
Q:您如何理解中国的“新时代”?
I think with the base of its 40 years of reform and opening up, China has gotten to a point to move on in many ways, such as in foreign policy ways, in ruling the world, and further reform of the Chinese system. And I think China has reached its new junction and has to move from that.
我认为中国在经历了40年的改革开放之后,在对外政策、国际事务和体制改革等方面都可以进入下一个发展阶段了。中国已经到达了一个新的转折点,并且应当继续前行。
Q:您所报道的最动人的故事有哪些?
The real fun of reporting in China is the closeness to the actual story, the big fascinating story of China merging into the 21st century.
报道中国的真正的乐趣在于走近真实的故事,那些在21世纪涌现出的精彩的中国故事。
Q: 您认为“新时代”的中国会出现怎样的故事?
We got the whole coverage of the New Era. So there will be many interesting stories coming from that. We got the Belt and Road Initiative coming into reality, and China-Africa relationship — how would that get involved in the next five years.
我们会全面报道“新时代”,所以这其中应该有很多故事。我们可以看到“一带一路”倡议如何逐步成为现实,以及中非关系在接下来的五年中如何发展。
I go back to the UK quite a lot, and I still don't think that people are aware of what impact a much bigger China economy has. But somehow, they haven't quite got the fact that China is being a more significant player in the world.
All I can do is to report and do stories one by one.
我经常回到英国,发现很多人仍然没有意识到中国经济对世界产生的影响有多大,也没有真的认识到中国在国际舞台上日益重要的作用,而我能做的就是坚持不懈,不断讲述一个个中国故事。
Q:您怎么看改革开放?
I came here in 2008 during the Olympics, before that there were lots of developments already. The striking thing is you can get the sense of progress and moving forward. And you don't quite get that sense in Europe.
我是2008年北京奥运会期间来中国的,在那之前中国的发展已经是有目共睹。最让我震惊的是在中国你能感受到发展和进步,这在欧洲是看不到的。
Q:您怎么看十九大报告中提到的目标?
Those targets are quite important in terms of China's development. We will see how things will progress. By 2049, how this will impact on global politics.
这些目标对于中国的发展来说至关重要,到2049年,它们将如何影响国际政治格局,我们拭目以待。
看完了安德鲁·穆迪的演讲和采访,你对中国的“新时代”有怎样的新认识呢?期待你的分享哦!
编辑:唐晓敏
实习生:刘英伦
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